Europe and Korea To Collaborate On 5G.

Neelie Kroes, EC vp and Mun-Kee Choi, South Korea’s Minister of Science, ICT and Future Planning (MSIP) have agreed to co-operate on 5G.

Among the issues which Europe and Korea are to try to figure out are:

What is 5G?
How do we get international harmonisation of spectrum for 5G?
What standards should be established for 5G?

The practical issues are to be hammered out by the EU’s 5G Infrastructure Association and South Korea’s 5G Forum.

The European association has Alcatel-Lucent, Atos, Deutsche Telekom, Ericsson, Nokia, Orange, Telecom Italia, Telenor and Telefonica for members.

“This is the first time ever that public authorities have joined together in this way, with the support of private industry, to push forward the process of standardisation,” says Kroes.

Jointly funded R&D programmes are planned to start in 2016.

Horizon 2020, the €6.2 billion EU R&D programme, has earmarked €700 million for 5G development.

Companies are expected to put up a further €3.5 billion for developing 5G.

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11 Comments

  1. Mike Bryant
    June 20, 2014 09:14

    Whilst ARM et al don’t employ many people directly, their surrounding ecosystems are responsible for far more people than GEC, Plessey and the like ever employed. A massive British success story !!

    But agree on the manufacturing – the EC “Factories of the Future” initiative was supposed to ensure this but again seems to be proping up dinasaurs. And before you suggest it, the whole budget for FOTF for 7 years won’t build even half a fab !

  2. david manners
    June 19, 2014 17:20

    thanks grax, appreciated and thanks for getting this discussion underway. In the UK we let the dinosaurs die – GEC, STC, Thorn, Plessey, Decca etc and new companies like ARM and Imagination have emerged.They don’t employ huge numbers of people but they have developed world leading technologies. Europe, maybe, should follow suit while retaining the economic muscle to keep manufacturing here. Manufacturing is very important – a key skill – which I think even Harvard Business School has now come to.accept.

  3. grax
    June 19, 2014 15:37

    David, I agree on each single word of your comments and I consider that what you express so clearly deserves to be further much more discussed at political level; problem is that eu politicians share same cultural origin of eu top managers ….
    In less then a decade THIS MANAGEMENT driving EU semicon industry has destroyed completely their leading position in the high tech market. The fall started with computer (Bull, Olivetti, Siemens, Philips) and is now ended with mobiles (TI, STE, Infineon) and telco (Alcatel, Ericsson, Nokia).

    I belong to the “next generation”, the only chance to restart this industry is not to (re-re-re-re)finance historycal eu semico companies but to create new ones based in europe but lead but top talented international managers with cross-european teams so to avoid any form of NATIONAL interest (the drogue who killed the merit!!).

    EU commission has no role to play but to foster (de-tax) international Venture Capital investment such as money coming from Arab countries (Abu Dhabi) which are strongly willing to invest in electronics but within well defined strategic frame.

    Legacy “national” semicon companies must just focus on FAB activities as they DEMONOSTRATED not be capable to CONCEIVE strategic roadmaps and DELIVER product COMPETITIVE and IN TIME respect to competitors …

    This is the way

  4. SilverMan
    June 19, 2014 11:24

    David, you may be on to something when discussing other systems able to provide infrastructure.
    Look up Ha-Joon Chang on wikipedia, this economist at cambridge is orginally from korea. In his book “23 things they don’t tell you about capitalism” he explains how south korea was able to develop it’s economic might.
    Now of course we can see Samsung, Hyundai and other examples for how their industrial policy worked very well.
    I remember years ago reading about how the korean’s had 20mb “broadband” internet… first time I’d ever heard the term – I was still on kludgy dial-up.

  5. david manners
    June 18, 2014 18:44

    I know, grax, and this is the continent which pioneered digital mobile telephony with GSM. That lead was left to disappear and with it the European wireless chip industry. Only little men with stunted vision seem to hold power in European hi-tec today. They want just to pursue what they can still make money at which, as we know, means that even what you have gets taken away from you. In tech you either compete for the big targets or wither away. European tech is led by witherers who are content to leave no legacy for the next generation so long as they can build their personal pension pots..

  6. Mike Bryant
    June 18, 2014 18:42

    s*d 3/4/5G ! Can we please have 100% universal 2G coverage. In recent weeks the service at my place has dropped from awful but possible to sporadic at best. And I don’t live in the outer Hebrides. I think phone companies are moving masts to 3G and actually reducing their 2G voice coverage.

  7. david manners
    June 18, 2014 18:34

    The networks are a dream in Beijing and Shanghai, AnotherDavid, maybe communist dictatorships are what are necessary to get adequate infrastructure. Private enterprise has signally failed to produce adequate wireless networks all over the world. The operators blame the regulators of course for squeezing their profits but I think it’s just the usual reason of MBA/accountant led companies putting the bottom line a long way before customer satisfaction.

  8. AnotherDavid
    June 18, 2014 16:55

    I haven’t been out there for a while.
    I was trying to use a so called 3G service yesterday near Cambridge, it was so bad I gave up. I would love to be able to use my 2GB / month limit, but I can’t!

  9. david manners
    June 18, 2014 16:44

    Ha Ha Another David but the poor old Yanks have an even shittier service

  10. AnotherDavid
    June 18, 2014 16:37

    Can’t we have a working 3G service 1st?

  11. grax
    June 18, 2014 15:49

    none of this EU companies TODAY produces any 3G/4G processors nor silicon for BTS … so I imagine they will use all resources for tons of PPTX and specs nobody will ever use cause Qualcom will define future 5G standards.

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